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Ambassador Advocates for U.S. Interests and Mosque with Minister of Education Diamantopoulou

   
  C O N F I D E N T I A L ATHENS 001723 


SIPDIS 


E.O. 12958: DECL: 2019/12/22 
TAGS: SCUL, PGOV, PHUM, GR 
SUBJECT: Ambassador Advocates for U.S. Interests and Mosque with 
Minister of Education Diamantopoulou 


CLASSIFIED BY: Daniel Speckhard, Ambassador, State, Exec; REASON: 
1.4(B), (D) 


1. (C) Summary: In a December 17 call on Minister of Education 
and Religious Affairs Anna Diamantopoulou , Ambassador Speckhard 
lobbied for American educational institutions operating in Greece, 
specifically with regard to licensing , recognition of degrees and 
the granting and vocational rights for graduates. The Ambassador 
also strongly urged the GOG to live up to its commitment to 
establish at least one mosque in Athens. Diamantopoulou 
reiterated the position that the Greek Constitution stipulates 
that only Greek state institutions could be licensed as 
universities. However, the GOG is willing to grant professional 
rights (such as being hired by the public sector) to graduates of 
qualified institutions provided that they became affiliated with EU 
institutions of higher education. Diamantopoulou said that plans 
were in the works for several mosques in Athens, not just one, to 
accommodate Muslims of different sects. The Ambassador and 
Diamantopoulou also discussed higher educational reform and the 
role that the U.S. could play in facilitating these efforts, as 
well as meetings we could arrange during her planned visit to the 
U.S. in April 2010. End Summary. 


2. (C) Although her portfolio also covers religious affairs, 
Diamantopoulou stated that she spent 95% of her time on educational 
matters. She criticized past educational reform efforts as being 
too short term and too focused to make a real difference, meaning 
that long term reforms never saw fruition. Each government wanted 
to see immediate results such as changing the way students are 
accepted to universities without taking into account that primary 
and secondary education would have to be reformed as part of this 
process. Real reform would involve changing the institutional 
framework, changing the teacher mentality, and decentralizing the 
educational system. On the latter point, Diamantopoulou noted that 
even routine changes in a small provincial schools required 
central Ministry approval. 


3. (C) On the issue of granting licenses to U.S.-affiliated 
schools operating in Greece, Ambassador Speckhard pushed strongly 
for licensing of Anatolia College, which has been in Greece since 
1923, and Deree College, operating since 1875 - and for the GOG 
to recognize their degrees. In addition to providing sough-after, 
high-quality American education in Greece, these schools also 
provide hundreds of jobs to Greeks (only 7% of the staff in Deree 
College is non-Greek and 10% in Anatolia), the Ambassador noted. 
Diamantopoulou stated that the Greek Constitution explicitly 
forbids the operation of private universities in Greece , stating 
specifically that universities in Greece must be free and run by 
the state. She added that a change to the constitution would 
exact a cost not only in time (at least five years) but politically 
as well, since initiating such a controversial move would engender 
such social unrest that it could potentially split the ruling PASOK 
party in two. As an example of how controversial the issue of 
private higher education is, Diamantopoulou noted that the 
appointment of Thalia Dragona as Special Secretary in the Ministry 
has caused quite a stir because she graduated from Deree College, 
and therefore does not have a recognized Greek degree. According 
to Diamantopoulou, sentiments within the Greek university system 
lie so firmly against the establishment of private universities 
that when a university professor quit to become Dean of New York 
College in Athens, he was ostracized by the Greek university 
community. 


4. (C) Diamantopoulou stated that under the present constitution 
it is impossible for Deree College or even affiliates of EU 
universities to have their degrees recognized, meaning that 
graduates from these institutions cannot apply for graduate studies 
in Greek universities. There is a process for recognition of 
degrees for students from universities in the U.S. For example, 
provided that the students took classes in the U.S. and not in 
Greece. There is more flexibility on the issue of professional 
rights, she stated, since the GOG is under EU pressure and will 
allow graduates of franchises of EU universities to be hired by the 
public sector even if they studied only in Greece. The only way a 
graduate of Deree College could be hired by the public sector would 
be for Deree College to become affiliated with an EU university (as 
Anatolia has done). In the coming weeks, an accreditation body 
will be set up under the Ministry of Education, made up of 
academics, to determine which foreign institutions will receive 
operating licenses. The Ambassador stated that it was unfortunate 
that a quality institution such as Deree College might be forced to 
compromise its American identity to widen the hiring options for 
its graduates. 


5. (C) The Ambassador also argued for the granting of tax 
concessions for American colleges operating in Greece as non-profit 
organizations and for relaxation of visa restrictions to allow 
American students to stay for the duration of their courses, which 
often extend beyond the 90-day visa limit. Ambassador Speckhard 
also described the advantages to Greece of allowing selected 
American teachers to stay for up to three years to provide 




effective English instruction, for example, and urged the GOG to 
review visa cases for these teachers on a flexible basis. 


6. (C) Finally, Ambassador Speckhard urged the GOG to live up to 
its commitment to establish a mosque in Athens, a city of 5,000,000 
with no legal house of worship for the Muslim community. The 
Ambassador stated that doing so would be proof to the international 
community of Greece's support for religious freedom. Land owned by 
the Greek Navy had been identified as a site for a mosque, but the 
process appeared to be stuck. Diamantopoulou stated that Greece 
was planning to open several mosques to meet the needs of different 
sects, rather than to have only one mosque serving the whole city 
of Athens. This approach would also address the problem of the 
current 700 illegal places of worship for Muslims that exist in 
Athens. A large site had already been identified in Elefsina with 
plans for a 600 square meter mosque. The Greek Archbishop himself 
had also donated land to be used as a mosque. 


7. (C) In response to the Ambassador's offer of assistance in the 
educational sector, Diamantopoulou stated that the university 
teachers' union, POSDEP, which has begun to soften its rhetoric and 
demonstrate a more moderate and progressive approach, is working 
with the Ministry on Educational reform. The union will initiate 
the reforms and the Ministry will support them. The Ambassador 
offered assistance in this area as well as in the area of 
accreditation if needed. The Minister mentioned that she planned 
on visiting the U.S. in late-March/early April to coincide with 
Greek Independence Day and may seek assistance in setting up 
meetings with counterparts in the education field. At the 
Ambassador's request, Diamantopoulou promised to arrange meetings 
for the President of Deree College with the Deputy Minister of 
Education after the holidays. 


8. (C) Comment: Although Diamantopoulou is an impressive and 
expert interlocutor in the field of education, her government's 
present policy represents a significant step backward from the 
previous New Democracy government as far as U.S. institutions of 
higher education - and their graduates -- are concerned. A few 
days before leaving office, the New Democracy government gave 
licenses to 33 foreign colleges to function as institutions of 
higher education. The New Democracy Ministry had also outlined a 
process for recognition of degrees from U.S. colleges as long as 
they were accredited in the U.S. The present government has 
adopted a narrow legalistic barrier using the Greek constitution as 
the reason for avoiding contentious issues of recognition of 
foreign institutions of higher education in Greece, despite the 
fact that these institutions have educated tens of thousands of 
Greek professionals. The good news is that elite institutions such 
as Deree College and Anatolia College will be treated the same as 
other foreign colleges operating in Greece. The bad news is that 
all will be barred from having their degrees recognized by Greece. 
Our conversation with the Minister underlined once again how 
difficult it is in Greece to institute meaningful reform. A 
university system which remains closed to foreign innovations and 
hostage to syndicate interests will fall further behind those in 
other countries more open to global innovations. Rather than 
adopting a forward leaning posture encouraging the Ministry to 
incorporate American institutions of higher education into the 
Greek system, we may need to guard against further incursions into 
the autonomy of quality American institutions of higher education 
in Greece. 
Speckhard 

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